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1. Alex Schroeder 🐝 (kensanata@octodon.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Sep-2019 06:37:48 UTC Alex Schroeder 🐝

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   The OECD study @dredmorbius linked to is terrifying:

   26% cannot use computers
   14% can do stuff like “Delete this email message.”
   29% can do stuff like “Find all emails from John Smith.”
   26% can do stuff like “You want to find a sustainability-related document that was sent to you by John Smith in October last year.”
   5% can do stuff like “You want to know what percentage of the emails sent by John Smith last month were about sustainability.”

   https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/

   I live in a bubble. I do.

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   • codesections (codesections@fosstodon.org@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 19:13:27 UTC codesections

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     • Andy Lundell 🙄

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     > My guess is that if this is the only way you all can solve that problem for the given application and data, then you probably don’t belong into that too 5%… 🤔

     I'm open to that possibility! If so, I want to learn.

     So, ok, let's hear it: how would you locate a message that is *about* a topic (but doesn't necessarily use the topic name) in messages that haven't been pre-taged with topic labels? Use any application of your choice

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   • Alex Schroeder 🐝 (kensanata@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 20:13:27 UTC Alex Schroeder 🐝

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     • Andy Lundell 🙄
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     @codesections @apLundell true, but consider “the mails you got form one person in one month” – I cannot imagine that being more than sixty mails. The problem is thus most likely one of counting them, and the total, and calculating a percentage, and verifying the numbers, something I’d still consider a simple task except error prone and all that. I mean, the other task was “find that one email on sustainability from this one person in that month last year.” How much harder can it be?

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   • codesections (codesections@fosstodon.org@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 20:23:48 UTC codesections

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     • Andy Lundell 🙄

     @kensanata @apLundell

     > true, but consider “the mails you got form one person in one month” – I cannot imagine that being more than sixty mails. The problem is thus most likely one of counting them, and the total,

     That's also fair.

     That said, if my procedure to "use a computer to determine what percentage of emails John sent last month were about sustainability" is "find all the emails John sent last month, skim them all, and count/divide" am I *really* using a computer to do the task?

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